aliceylain: ([utena] cruelty)
aliceylain ([personal profile] aliceylain) wrote2012-04-08 09:28 pm

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Analysis help is needed! And of the Revolutionary Girl Utena kind!

I'm trying to understand the symbolism of Shiori's bird in her Black Rose episode. All the Black Rose duelist have a symbol on the desk during their fights and I understand the important of most of them. However, I just don't understand Shiori's. I know that a bird flies into the window during a conversation between her and Juri earlier in the episode but...the significance? It is escaping me.

I'm sure it's something that I'm just overlooking, but could someone help a girl out here?
gramarye1971: a single Black Rose signet ring (Utena: Kurobara)

[personal profile] gramarye1971 2012-04-09 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
Taking a wild stab at the symbolism, I'd say that the bird that hits the window during their conversation is meant to indicate that Shiori is to some extent unable to see the barrier that really separates her from Juri. She thinks it's because of the boy she 'stole' from Juri, but it's really Juri's own feelings that put the barrier there. She's so intent on hurting Juri through the boyfriend connection that she can't see how she's really hurting Juri: by being herself. So when she hits the wall -- when Juri says that she never really cared about that boy -- Shiori is left half-dazed, in a state of complete confusion. It's only when the wet locket shows up that she starts to understand...and that's what sends her to Mikage.

Does that make sense? (It's late here and I haven't rewatched that episode lately.)
dotsandlines: The constellation Orion (Default)

[personal profile] dotsandlines 2012-04-10 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh, that's nice.

The whole show has a recurring theme of "self-created problems," but Shiori is particularly good at it, I think.